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Title: Who is using VISTA here?
Post by: Patrice Terrier on November 14, 2007, 11:33:33 AM
If you are using VISTA, could you please let me know if it works well with the BassBox project?

See below the report I got from Jordi Vallès:

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Today I tested the superb Bassbox on my new PC with Windows Vista Home Premium and some strange details has been detected. The BassPatch43 has been applied just before the test.

As you can see on the screen image attached the client area appears twice, but controls only one. Also some strange is the frame or border around the clock gadget on the top right corner.

My new PC is a HP Pavillion Dual Core Media Center m7760.es-m. This model has Graphics Intel Media Accelerator 950 integrated. The scren is HPw19 with a resolution of 1440 x 900 pixels.

On my old PC with Windows XP no problems has been detected.


See attached screen shot
Title: Who is using VISTA here again ?????
Post by: Patrice Terrier on November 15, 2007, 02:59:44 PM
I am pushing up this thread again, because I didn't get any answer  :-\
Title: Re: Who is using VISTA here?
Post by: Hans Rietveld on November 15, 2007, 03:10:15 PM
Hi Patrice.

No, I don't use VISTA, but I have a small problem with XP Prof with SP2 and Bassbox.

Resizing to larger an back to smallest for several times leaves artefacts in the right-upper corner and
the left-bottom corner.

There are some dots left on the screen. (White on a black background)
They are inline with the topside and leftside of the window.

Hans Rietveld.

Title: Re: Who is using VISTA here?
Post by: Charles Pegge on November 15, 2007, 04:08:16 PM
I get that too during resizing and wondered if it might be rounding errors of some kind.

But as for Vista, I won't be using it unless forced to do so.

Title: Re: Who is using VISTA here?
Post by: Patrice Terrier on November 15, 2007, 04:18:23 PM
Hans,

This has always been an issue with window using regions on XP, and fortunatly this has been solved on VISTA.

This comes from the fact that the XP desktop is not correctly updated when the window is resized to a smaller size. The solution would be to invalidate the desktop to force it to redraw, but this could lead to other problem if the underlaying application are slow to repaint themselves.
Indeed this problem exists since Windows 98. I must check how I did in WinLIFT to work around this problem.

Thank you for the feedback.

Now back to Jordi's problem, I am unable to reproduce his behavior neither on NVIDIA nor ATI.

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Title: Re: Who is using VISTA here?
Post by: Patrice Terrier on November 15, 2007, 04:25:09 PM
--Charles

See my answer to Hans.

It is not up to the BassBox application to repaint the Windows desktop after the window has been resized, however I shall see if I could find a work around.

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Title: Re: Who is using VISTA here?
Post by: Patrice Terrier on November 15, 2007, 06:17:20 PM
Hans, Charles,

See the BassBox thread for the XP artefacts solution.

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Title: Re: Who is using VISTA here?
Post by: Hans Rietveld on November 15, 2007, 08:44:55 PM
Patrice,

Problem solved.
Thanks for the very fast response.

That is why I like this board.
The kindness, knowledge and friendly way you and all the other moderator
help all the members.

Thanks.

Hans.

Title: Re: Who is using VISTA here?
Post by: Kent Sarikaya on November 16, 2007, 10:48:30 AM
I am using XP and no Vista at the moment.
Title: Re: Who is using VISTA here?
Post by: Marc Van Cauwenberghe on November 17, 2007, 03:56:16 PM
Using XP, not going for Vista in a while.

Regards,
Marc

Title: Re: Who is using VISTA here?
Post by: Patrice Terrier on November 17, 2007, 04:37:05 PM
Are you all hobbyist programmers  ???

I couldn't have found VISTA compatibility issues with my own commercial projects, without checking and working with it.

As Yoda would say:
"Very lucky you are, if editing your software no need you have" (to make them work on VISTA).
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Title: Re: Who is using VISTA here?
Post by: Charles Pegge on November 17, 2007, 05:49:24 PM
It's the home market where you need VISTA.

Most businesses are strenuously avoiding VISTA because it requires new hardware and breaks so many in-house applications. Microsoft must surely address these issues in future VISTA updates, or they risk a loss of confidence and a mass exodus to Linux or on-line services.

VISTA should at least have a legacy mode to support older software.

Title: Re: Who is using VISTA here?
Post by: Patrice Terrier on November 17, 2007, 05:58:23 PM
--Charles

DirectX10, is a real piece of cake that goes far beyond all you have seen so far in real 3D  :o

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Title: Re: Who is using VISTA here? (Poll)
Post by: Patrice Terrier on March 07, 2008, 10:58:58 PM
Just out of curriosity, are there any new members of this forum using VISTA?
8)

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Title: Re: Who is using VISTA here?
Post by: Patrice Terrier on March 08, 2008, 04:19:27 PM
Davide,

VISTA Home Basic is not able to work in DWM composited mode, and it can't run the latest DirectX version.
Thus the result with BassBox could be unpredictable (however it should detect that the DWM mode is OFF).
If you encounter problems, then let me know and i will fix them.

QuoteI don't agree with the question "Are you all hobbyist programmers?" 
For me an hobbyist programmer has a regular work that is not programming,
while a business programmer earn his living doing programming.
As you can see no offense there, but when you are doing programming for others, and especialy when dealing with the end user mass market, then you can't ignore VISTA.
That is my point  :)
Title: Re: Who is using VISTA here?
Post by: Patrice Terrier on March 08, 2008, 08:59:09 PM
QuoteThe tooltips for Blur and Crystal radio buttons seem swapped
Good catch thank you.

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Title: Re: Who is using VISTA here?
Post by: Charles Pegge on March 09, 2008, 11:47:51 PM
Patrice,
Thanks for the warning about the nobbled home edition of Vista which can't do the full DirectX. Tut tut!  I think I will be a very late comer to Vista. I Fear that having lost the monopoly case in the European courts concerned with restricting information , Microsofts tactic will now be to flood us with so many APIs - that once enmeshed, there is no escape! Vendor Lock-in by means of complexity.